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  David Young Did you know him?

  by lurk3r in

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  david young was a fine individual and jw, who was profiled in more than one awake magazine.

  he was a quadriplegic, and an accomplished artist.

  having contracted polio at a young age, he learned to paint with holding a brush in his mouth.

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  I knew him very well. Always liked him.
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  Is Earth Itself the Great Abyss?

  by cameo-d in

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  from wiki:.

  because he contrived "to make his throne higher than the clouds over the earth and resemble 'my power' on high", satan-sataniel was hurled down, with his hosts of angels, and since then he has been flying in the air continually above the abyss.

  abyss: 13501400; earlier abisse, me abissus < ll abyssus < gk abyssos bottomless, equiv.

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  cameo-d: According to Greber - or rather, the spirit he communicated with - yes, you will be... :)
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  PDF request October 1, 2005 WT on Higher Education

  by cabasilas in

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  would anyone be able to provide a pdf of the entire wt article from the october 1, 2005 watchtower regarding higher education?

  i realize it's on the cd-rom but i'd be interested in a scan of the complete article if someone has that or could make it available?.

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  Is Earth Itself the Great Abyss?

  by cameo-d in

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  from wiki:.

  because he contrived "to make his throne higher than the clouds over the earth and resemble 'my power' on high", satan-sataniel was hurled down, with his hosts of angels, and since then he has been flying in the air continually above the abyss.

  abyss: 13501400; earlier abisse, me abissus < ll abyssus < gk abyssos bottomless, equiv.

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  Johannes Greber postulated a similar idea in his book Communication with the Spirit World. According to Greber, the spirit he communicated with claimed that humans are incarnate spirit beings who had previously rebelled against God (ie, demons) and are now 'serving their time'.
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  You would not believe how my JW friends responded to Flippers' comments

  by BonaFide in

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  so after the meeting yesterday we went for coffee, nice group.

  two baptized more than 40 years, one baptized 20 years, one baptized 11 years, and one study that was invited.. someone had picked up the 6/15 wt so i said, "wow, what do you think about new light?

  " they said, "what new light?

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  "I saw the discrepancy developing 30 years ago and had an actuary look into it in the early 80's. Starting with the figures given in the 1930's for the partakers and asumming a a very young average age of 35 for them, the actuary claculated that there should only be about 3500 partakers left alive by 1984- less than 1/2 of the numbers given in the yearbook. By 1994 it should have been no more than 1000 and the last one would have left the building by the year 2000."

  I've been convinced for quite some time that the numbers published by the Society are bogus. The Society NEEDS "anointed" on earth. Period. Their doctrinal house of cards falls apart without this. They know this and they're not going to let a little thing like the truth stand in their way...

  For years the Society printed a slowly decreasing 'reasonable' number of anointed. They did this up until the point where even the most brain-dead dubs might start to question the numbers, considering the 1935 cutoff date for the "heavenly calling". By 2005, 70 years had passed since the cutoff date for the heavenly calling. Those who were 30 in 1935 were now 100 years old...

  So in 2006, the Society publishes a signficant increase. And again in 2007. This, of course, affords the Society the PERFECT opportunity to do away with the 1935 cutoff date, which they did immediately following the memorial in 2007:

  *** w07 5/1 p. 31 Questions From Readers ***
  "On the other hand, as time has gone by, some Christians baptized after 1935 have had witness borne to them that they have the heavenly hope. (Romans 8:16, 17) THUS, IT APPEARS THAT WE CANNOT SET A SPECIFIC DATE FOR WHEN THE CALLING OF CHRISTIANS TO THE HEAVENLY HOPE ENDS."

  Once the rank and file get it through their heads that there is enough fresh blood in the "anointed" ranks, no doubt we'll see the number begin to slowly decrease again and once again the Society will point to the dwindling number of anointed as evidence of the nearness of the end.

  Rinse and repeat.
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  JW Board Game?

  by veen in

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  i seem to remember a board game in my youth that was in some way endorsed by the jw powers that be.

  there were shekel's involved etc.

  any idea's what this was?.

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  Yeah it really did suck. The only thing worse than "family game night" was "family study night"...
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  JW Board Game?

  by veen in

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  i seem to remember a board game in my youth that was in some way endorsed by the jw powers that be.

  there were shekel's involved etc.

  any idea's what this was?.

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  When I was young we had a board (bored?) game called Tree of Knowledge. As I recall, the rumor was it was made by a JW...
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  Awake 1950 bookmarked and searchable in pdf

  by bereanbiblestudent in

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  here is the awake from 1950. its the complete year thanks to jaydee who scanned the page i missed.. the file is searchable and bookmarked.. http://www.sendspace.com/file/uolu45if the link does not work anymore try the internet archive at www.archive.org you can find a lot there including mp3 s of the 1968 gilead graduation and the 1977 annual meeting.

  if you have something worth analyzing why not upload it to the archive.

  maybe someone can upload more old convention speeches and more of the old rutherford/knorr records or some other interesting old recordings.. .

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  Thanks for posting this!
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  The Trinity: God the Father and God The Son

  by BlackSwan of Memphis in

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  i had been discussing the trinity with someone the other day (hence the topic on i am) and this person alluded to the idea that jesus was saying he himself was jehovah.. well, it occurred to me last night:.

  in the doctrine of the trinity, isn't jehovah considered god the father and jesus is god the son?

  or am i not understanding the doctrine properly?.

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  I wrote a short essay years ago on the Watchtower Society's misrepresentation of the Trinity doctrine. It might help. Check it out here:

  http://www.geocities.com/thewatchtowerstudy/strawman.htm
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  best JW Cult words & phrases

  by still_in74 in

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  1 - "new world order".

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  "evidently"

  which always means the exact opposite.